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Alex_iv 09-02-2009 22:40

Weightlifter stamp, 1962, vn. cat. 112
 
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To anyone who interested except me and Mr. Khai, with whom we start to discuss with topic by PM :)\

I suppose many of you for sure have weightlifter stamp of 1962. It's rather expensive, i bought it last time in Cotevina office in Saigon. But later here my colleague showed me his weightlifter stamp and it was much different - more yellow color, different scratch.. (look at the attached scan) and he said that he had this stamp from 1980-ties.

So i suppose he has original print and my is some kind of reprint? Or his yellow stamp is a fake? And such story rising a question - how many stamps Cotevina reprint like this? what quantity? How to evaluate they value now?

Thanks a lot in advance! Expecially for Mr.Khai :)

I attached stamps of my collegue here. I have the left one mint... ehhh :) Now need to get cancelled also :)


THE GUEST 11-02-2009 22:15

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Hi Alex,

I saw and filed the fake stamp which was sold on ebay recently. Please refer it as attached herewith. Give me your opinion after compare it with stamp of your friend.

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Alex_iv 12-02-2009 00:58

Yes, from my opinion they are very similar. It's hard to judge about color because of the scanner (maybe wrong preset, old lamp and so on) but in general seems they are identical. Is it possible that he had fake form 20 more years ago? Was the forgery production popular that time? :)
And can you please tell me more about original stamp (on the left)? How many copies was printed? is it hard to get cancelled one?

Thanks,
Alexander

THE GUEST 12-02-2009 06:55

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Hi Alex,

Please refer my four mint stamps as displayed. You could see which varies of stamps I collected.


Note : only with border margin of stamps you could see watermark of paper used !

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I would find used stamps to show you soon. About quantity of stamps were issued (sold partly then withdrew after few weeks) I am searching related figure in books for your reference soon. See you :)

Alex_iv 12-02-2009 19:53

Thank you very much for information, Mr.Khai!

THE GUEST 28-02-2009 05:40

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A used stamp bears post mark of Ha Noi post office cancelled on Sep. 19, 1962 (19 days after the first day of issue).

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Alex_iv 02-03-2009 01:12

I see, thanks. Later i want to have cancelled stamp for my collection also :)

THE GUEST 19-03-2009 06:55

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Trích dẫn:

Nguyên văn bởi Alex_iv (Post 42411)
Yes, from my opinion they are very similar. It's hard to judge about color because of the scanner (maybe wrong preset, old lamp and so on) but in general seems they are identical. Is it possible that he had fake form 20 more years ago? Was the forgery production popular that time? :)
And can you please tell me more about original stamp (on the left)? How many copies was printed? is it hard to get cancelled one?

Thanks,
Alexander



1) How many copies were printed ?

I guess there were about 1 million copies were issued. Please refer this book:

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There is no data for the "weight lifter" but we could refer datum of previous sets issued in 1961 for the stamps of 12 xu (pointed by red arrow).

2) Is it hard to get cancelled one?

Not easy.

Alex_iv 19-03-2009 13:12

Thanks Khai! :) Interesting that before vietnamese catalog had circulations of older stamps. I wonder why now they removed this information because it's useful and interesting...
And i think if it was printed 1 mil copies stamp should be much cheaper... Because okey, they winthdraw it but it means if it was not destroyed it still lie somewhere. Last time in Saigon Cotevina office woman showed me only 2 available stamp and one was so so condition...

THE GUEST 10-04-2009 20:03

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In 2005, I had an opportunity to visit home of Mrs. Lien whose husband is Mr. Khánh, a stamp collector in Hanoi since 1950's. Mr. Khánh is old and often gets sick. His wife had started to sell out his collection. This is the first day cancellation on first day of issue of the weightlifter stamp. The house of this collector is located on Hang Khay street, next to the Hoan Kiem lake, not far from the Bo Ho post office. In the past, collector likes Mr. Khánh used to go to this central post office to take first day cancellation every time there was a new issue of North Vietnam stamp(s).

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